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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters they exist Among Us and

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sometimes they win even the devil was an

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angel once the world has its own rules

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and these rules are not human

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some of us seek answers to the origin

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and existence of Cryptids and The

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a consideration is is very much needed

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and appreciated so tonight's guest Carol

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Scott developed an interest in

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cryptozoology after catching a late

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night episode of animal X

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this interest in her previous work in

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journalism led to her research in write

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her first book the Cryptids of Asia and

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Oceania

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the myths and historical roots of

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undiscovered creatures she currently

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Works in marketing and lives with her

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two cats Wallace and asparagus in

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Ontario Canada

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Carol thanks for joining me this evening

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yeah great to be here thank you for the

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great introduction

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so uh you kind of took a big swing

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getting Cryptids from Asia and Oceania

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uh you know

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when you talk about cryptozoology most

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people in the United States kind of

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think North America is the only place

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that these things are uh but of course

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that's just not true we we've gotten all

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kinds of strange encounters and Saudis

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throughout the world

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so uh so what inspired you to do this

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yeah a lot of it was just the the you

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know the focus on cryptids in North

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America

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um and Loch Ness monster and you also

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have a couple in Australia that are also

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definitely popular the thylazine and um

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the yowie but I really wanted to

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you know provide a baseline knowledge

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for all the other Cryptids that aren't

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covered as much

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and that was that was really the main

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the main focus of the book is just to

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look at those gather every little B

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Every Little Bit of evidence I could

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find and really just provide

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the foundation for further research into

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those Cryptids and you know I definitely

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hope that you know if someone reads this

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and

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goes oh I want to study this particular

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Cryptid more that was always my goal is

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just to get more people interested in

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this the cryptage from this part of the

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world and hopefully

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you know kind of develop a more

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I mean you you kind of cover a large

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area with Asia I think Oceania you know

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and I've always been interested in

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Oceana just necessarily Cryptids but for

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a lot of other things but uh the you

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know the islands and the areas countries

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and those areas they they offer all

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kinds of opportunities for

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different types of research even into

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paranormal UFO and all that uh so when

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you got involved with this what

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surprises did you find what uh were

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there anything that popped up that kind

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of kind of surprised you

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there was a number of things I think the

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overwhelming uh a common theme with

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pretty much every Crypt it was just

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the lack of

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preservation of evidence of testimonials

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about cryptids in this part of the world

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even something like the yeti which

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obviously is a very well-known Cryptid I

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am pretty sure everyone knows that

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whether they're into cryptozoology or

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a lot of the research that you could

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find basically starts in the 20th

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century as soon as Western Mountaineers

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get there there's not a lot of focus on

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you know what what were people who live

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around that area seeing

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how long have they been seeing it are

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there any differences between

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reports from locals and reports from

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westerners

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and that that's something that comes up

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a lot is just

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preservation of

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and it did make research very hard in in

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some respects a lot of it was

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you know having to go through

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very old texts having to get access to

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them if they even existed one of the

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Cryptids in the book uh the netawo

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the primary document from which we know

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about them there's actually only one uh

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one physical copy that has never been

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digitally archived

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it's it's falling apart according to a

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researcher that I spoke to from the area

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so that's definitely something where

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you know like that even even let's let's

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pretend that none of these Cryptids

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exist that's still part of the human

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experience of that area that should be

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preserved and then

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assuming these Cryptids exist there is

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definitely we would want to know how

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their behavior has changed

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how long have they been in the area has

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anything changed like that's just

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something you would want to know once

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you discover a creature

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and a lot of that is not preserved and a

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lot of it isn't archived a lot of it

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isn't digitized and that's definitely

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major blind spot on the part of

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not only cryptozoologists I'm not trying

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to place blame on you know people who

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basically do this in their spare time

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but also

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you know scientific researchers

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um archivists you know going back to the

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network and it's like you know you would

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think like this pretty

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pretty interesting piece of History

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wouldn't necessarily just be sitting

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around decaying

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and you know like that I I honestly felt

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very sad when the researcher told me

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that and I I was like wow we should

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absolutely be preserving that

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yeah well I want to thank peace for her

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uh her donation very much appreciated

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um

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yeah you know I I think a lot of people

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were surprised

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uh are are surprised when information on

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some of these um

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some of these Cryptids from other other

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countries come forth in in

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documentaries or even you know even in

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science you know just like the the Eva

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go go that was actually

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documented in a film about about a

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decade ago how how much of a stir there

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was with that

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uh in other human human hominid type of

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uh Cryptids of course we've got them all

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over the place I mean of course

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Australia like you said has a yalley and

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you know almost yeah Massey

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Yeti year and I mean there's a whole

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slew of them and um The Rock Apes and

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and other types of sightings uh I mean

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which kind of fascinate me but the the

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Ebu GoGo I thought was quite fascinating

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the

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and were somewhat fearful of and uh when

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that documentary came out and I forget

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what the name of it was but I had

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written about it it was it was a

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fascinating documentary and the

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individual who who did the actual

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research did a fantastic job but every

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once in a while we did one of those some

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of those things do come forth

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um and you know there are several

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cryptozoologists that you know they've

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been involved with this that we know who

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have gone

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uh in Asia the first person I think of

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Freeman uh from UK who's actually does

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this a lot and uh there's others of

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course but uh it's um

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it's fascinating so uh is it is there

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one in particular

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group or a species that has has

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fascinated you when you started going

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into all this research

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yeah one of the Cryptids that is always

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fascinated me and this goes back to the

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very old days of watching Animal X was

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um xylazine a lot of that is just I

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think they're pretty neat and I would

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like for them to still be around

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but what are your thoughts on that you

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think they do exist yet

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I I do think that they are still in

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Tasmania

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um I yeah I I definitely do think at

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least a small population is still there

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and you know like there's enough people

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who have seen

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things that don't it doesn't line up

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with dingoes it doesn't line up with you

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know domesticated dogs so

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it's either it's either you know small

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population of thylazines or it's

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something else which I guess is also

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interesting but I would prefer

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thylazines if I had to choose

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yeah it seems that the uh the thylazine

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are for people who don't know who they

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are they are the uh

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the

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supposed to be seen in Australia and

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there are a lot of researchers that

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believe that there are some population

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in Australia as well uh I don't know

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um I have seen possible images or

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photographs of these things it's hard to

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tell if they're they're actual but um I

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have I have talked to a few people who

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claim that they have seen them

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they thought they seemed so I don't know

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I think I think as time goes on we'll

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find out more and more

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you know

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Australia just like most places is just

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not as wide open as they used to be

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people are encroaching on these wild

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areas the bush in particular and

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um maybe we will be lucky enough to see

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one or have one recorded

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yeah definitely very possible and you

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know like you said there's definitely a

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lot of encroachment on wild territory

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but there is still comparatively a lot

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of wild territory that doesn't

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necessarily

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get

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you know explored too often it is

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explored but you know there's not

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necessarily people going in pretty

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frequently which does provide

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so uh is there any part of the book uh

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or anything you've written about that

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you really want to emphasize on that you

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really want to talk about in particular

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I actually one of the most interesting

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Cryptids that I covered in the book uh

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the the network I did already bring them

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up but it's such a fascinating story of

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one of the indigenous tribes on Sri

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Lanka and they claimed that there was

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another tribe of you know Harry Harry

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beasts with like very long nails that

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would you know just

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steal their kills you know just

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generally cause Havoc so this indigenous

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tribe said

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well we don't want to deal with these

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whatever they are anymore so

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they rounded them all up into a cave

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and lit a fire at the mouth of the cave

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and basically in the Legend all the

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um the Neto just you know suffocated to

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death and basically it was a huge

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genocide of

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the Neto and I you know I was just it's

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such a fascinating story that I had just

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never heard before

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um and there's

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you know one of the interesting things

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is

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you know like there's a lot of debate

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over whether they're monkeys you know

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just another

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you know

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if they were even another

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you know Neanderthal type hominid which

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which

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definitely adds a different layer to the

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you know killing all of them uh talk

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so it's definitely

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very interesting and it's relatively

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recently that that occurred Bernard

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hubbleman's did write about

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um the event in on the track of unknown

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animals and estimated that it took place

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at about 1800. you know he was still

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talking to people whose parents

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had said that either they were involved

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or their own parents were involved

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and that's

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you know I I you know that's and I just

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found that fascinating that something

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could occur like that

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pretty recently All Things Considered be

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written about by the cryptozoologist and

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I had just never heard about it before

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until I started you know scouring for

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yeah they're uh you know

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um I I always go back to uh the Vietnam

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War and the um some of the stories that

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have come out of there you know of

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course like the Rock Apes and then there

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have been these reptilian beings the

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flying

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bat woman and a few other things that

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have been you know

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you know a lot of that could be folklore

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but these soldiers where they have seen

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these things and uh I have talked to a

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few

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and uh

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even I even talked to an older guy who's

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a vet over in Vietnam who said that

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there were a few upright canine species

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there as well that he his uh his platoon

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had to deal with at one point

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so um it's quite it's quite interesting

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um

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you know I I don't know I I just I it's

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hard for me to believe maybe but uh I

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knew that they um

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that a lot of the indigenous people

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they know about it but very rarely do

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they want to talk about it you know now

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my my forte for the most part is the the

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wing beings the flying the flying

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Cryptids and they're the ones I'm most

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fascinated with and uh the in fact I got

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a picture of the uh the flying

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Vietnamese Vietnam woman or whatever

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they want a bat woman they want to call

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and uh yeah there was uh there was a

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sergeant or someone a platoon leader who

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actually recorded that talk about it and

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um there have been others of course in

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the Philippines there's there's quite a

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few of these uh

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bat uh bat like vampire large beings uh

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Philippines seems to have a whole slew

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of these things these different types

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and you know it's it's part of their

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lore too as well as Indonesian and some

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of the other larger islands so uh

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you know I I like you I I find I find it

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absolutely fascinating and we are always

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looking for

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information on winged uh winged

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humanoids uh throughout the world not

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yeah there's definitely quite I was I

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was quite surprised by how many winged

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hominids that there were

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um some some of them definitely Veer

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much more into folklore in Malaysia

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there is the

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gotta check the name real fast and I'm

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probably gonna mispronounce this so I

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apologize to any Malaysian viewers uh

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but the siguel

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which was it was quite interesting

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because you know it there was definitely

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the component of you know this is the

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scary story that you tell your kids but

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there is also elements of

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you know the Spanish colonialists going

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oh you know like these are

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you know the the UN undesirable people

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who live in the woods and yeah using

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that as like a tactic on the indigenous

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people of Malaysia

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so that was that was quite interesting

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to look into and I'm surprised there

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hasn't been more

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um

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you know research from a

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I guess you know not necessary

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necessarily Zoological but you know just

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kind of looking into

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the folklore behind that I I definitely

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couldn't find a lot although there was

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one book that had a whole chapter on it

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that was quite fun to read but

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um and

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yeah so yeah definitely very surprised

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by how many winged hominids that there

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were there was quite a few other winged

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creatures

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um as well the roping is probably the

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most well known so I figured most people

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who are into cryptozoology would would

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know that one

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so yeah the roping is an interesting one

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I mean uh

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actually that's

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my interest in Terrace on terradors

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pterodons and pterosaurs actually was

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the research that was over taken place

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over in Papua New Guinea with the

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ropings that's quite an interesting

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there have been some type of

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luminescence to him and when they see it

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and

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we have had these pterosaur sightings

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throughout North America as well

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and uh I just find that fascinating and

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um oh I got a question here from Nancy

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Malcolm are there any sightings of ghost

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monkeys that you know

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so not necessarily ghost monkeys I I

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assume it's something along the lines of

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monkeys that aren't in the correct place

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um as opposed to Paranormal monkeys um

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although if that is what you mean I I

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apologize I I'm not too familiar with

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the more

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you know ghosts Phantoms

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um side of it but there are there are

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several

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out of place monkeys that definitely

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came up one of them was the monkey man

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of New Delhi which is kind of in the end

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of the chapter so that was basically

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um

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everyone was reporting this monkey that

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was just harassing people it was quite

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interesting to read because there was a

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lot of different

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theories about it one of them was that

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it was a robot program by terrorists to

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you know I had heard that one

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yeah

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um there there was definitely some fun

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theories that came up with several of

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the Cryptids but uh terrorist terrorist

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monkey was definitely one of the one of

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the most interesting well I think there

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was a death or two associated with those

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things too where they had guys come on

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through people's balconies

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and I don't know had

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somehow there was a there would be a

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death associated with it but uh yeah you

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know when that happened I I I actually

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remember when it started the story

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started coming out I had written about

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it a couple times and uh yeah the New

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Delhi monkey man I you know that and and

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some of the drawings that people were

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coming up with were pretty profound so

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uh yeah that was quite an interesting

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Crypt absolutely

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yeah another one was there was actually

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a monkey species in Singapore uh which

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is a pretty small island nation that

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doesn't have a lot of forests so

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definitely quite interesting that there

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was even you know one of the Cryptid

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primates on that island

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um there was not

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a ton of reports for that after a

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certain I believe 2009

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but you know it's definitely still

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interesting and that could genuinely be

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one of those I you know occasions where

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someone just released a pet monkey or or

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something along those lines

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um I know normally those explanations

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aren't too popular but

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um you know like Singapore very small

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it's not supporting population yeah and

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it's mostly it's mostly Urban anyway

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it's not a whole lot of uh not a lot of

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forest Andrew Boyle asks uh any mermaid

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sightings you know we got a lot of

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mermaid sightings here in North America

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and of course in Africa we we hear about

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a lot of them uh how about in Oceana are

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some of the countries in Asia have um

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have you come across any mermaid like a

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merman type of sightings

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so I didn't find any

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yeah

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I want I guess compelling so to speak

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that you wouldn't get like the

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occasional one

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um but nothing sustained in like a

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particular area that would indicate like

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a population or anything like that and

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there there's definitely

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a lot tied up in folklore there

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so

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uh they are not in the book

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um but you know there is still the the

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interest and you you could definitely

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find some sightings

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um

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where

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that

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I had um I had gotten a few now this is

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more

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South Asia or mid Middle East but in uh

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the Black Sea around Crimea there have

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been some merman sightings

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uh and in Iran along the Caspian Sea

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some of the fishermen in the caspians

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you have talked about seeing Merman and

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uh so there's been quite a few

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um but as far as

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um in other areas I haven't really heard

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uh Vincent wants to know about the pale

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humanoid creatures what we call crawlers

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I actually wrote a book about it uh have

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you heard much about that in Asia

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I have not

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um so I I can't recall offhand if I

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found any reports

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along those lines in the area

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um

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so yeah I I yeah I don't think I came

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across any

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um you you might be able to find reports

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from certain areas I know a lot in

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um the Pakistan area there was a lot of

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uh folklore creatures that came up as

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Cryptids but I couldn't find anyone

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basically

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reporting them

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in you know

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post 1500s basically not that something

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couldn't exist beforehand it's just as

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far as writing it's a little you know

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complicated

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okay uh Nancy Malcolm asked uh any new

564
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:37,500
crypto reports from Japan where the nuke

565
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:40,320
accident uh Fukushima happened a few

566
00:25:46,610 --> 00:25:44,400
years ago you know I I do know that some

567
00:25:49,610 --> 00:25:46,620
people had reported though after the

568
00:25:52,490 --> 00:25:49,620
fact that they saw Mothman or winged

569
00:25:53,450 --> 00:25:52,500
humanoids above the uh the Fukushima

570
00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:53,460
plant

571
00:25:58,970 --> 00:25:56,159
but uh as far as

572
00:26:01,730 --> 00:25:58,980
in that area I haven't heard of any have

573
00:26:05,570 --> 00:26:01,740
you heard of anything new in the area

574
00:26:08,510 --> 00:26:05,580
not anything new although you might find

575
00:26:10,370 --> 00:26:08,520
this of interest uh the hibagon which is

576
00:26:14,029 --> 00:26:10,380
one of the

577
00:26:15,649 --> 00:26:14,039
uh Cryptid primates from Japan

578
00:26:18,409 --> 00:26:15,659
um one of the one of the explanations

579
00:26:22,909 --> 00:26:18,419
that I actually found put forward was

580
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:22,919
that it was a survivor of the atomic

581
00:26:30,110 --> 00:26:27,360
bomb that was from Nagasaki and yeah it

582
00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:30,120
was just you know the Survivor was just

583
00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:31,500
roaming around and everyone was

584
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:35,279
mistaking them for you know a Sasquatch

585
00:26:38,510 --> 00:26:36,720
type creature

586
00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:38,520
um I couldn't find any Japanese sources

587
00:26:41,570 --> 00:26:39,900
on that

588
00:26:43,070 --> 00:26:41,580
um so I basically found it in one book

589
00:26:44,570 --> 00:26:43,080
that I had to get off the internet

590
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:44,580
archive so

591
00:26:48,409 --> 00:26:46,559
however much stock you want to put in

592
00:26:51,169 --> 00:26:48,419
that but definitely something that did

593
00:26:52,490 --> 00:26:51,179
come up as far as you know a nuclear

594
00:26:56,510 --> 00:26:52,500
disaster

595
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:56,520
the the only um humanoid sighting that I

596
00:27:01,070 --> 00:26:58,799
I know of in Japan other than one Wing

597
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:01,080
cubanoid setting I got around Mount

598
00:27:06,169 --> 00:27:04,559
Mount Fiji years ago was of course at

599
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:06,179
the Kappa now people have talked about

600
00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:09,600
the Kappa for for centuries and it's

601
00:27:14,890 --> 00:27:11,520
part of the folklore I guess it's

602
00:27:17,690 --> 00:27:14,900
actually a deity to some people in Japan

603
00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:17,700
uh what did you what did you come up

604
00:27:22,190 --> 00:27:19,919
with that do you remember any of that

605
00:27:24,529 --> 00:27:22,200
capital information that you may have

606
00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:24,539
reported on or researched

607
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:27,919
yeah a lot of that is definitely based

608
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:31,919
in current beliefs so it was definitely

609
00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:33,840
something that I did consider putting in

610
00:27:37,730 --> 00:27:36,000
the book but it was basically equivalent

611
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:37,740
to if I was writing about North America

612
00:27:46,370 --> 00:27:42,240
and I said oh yeah a lot of people see

613
00:27:49,549 --> 00:27:46,380
angels and you know not not the you know

614
00:27:51,769 --> 00:27:49,559
like that's not worth writing about

615
00:27:52,970 --> 00:27:51,779
um there's certainly some writings you

616
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:52,980
could do on that I just think from a

617
00:27:58,490 --> 00:27:54,960
cryptozoology standpoint

618
00:28:00,590 --> 00:27:58,500
and dabbling into religious beliefs and

619
00:28:05,090 --> 00:28:00,600
such Doesn't

620
00:28:07,130 --> 00:28:05,100
work as well and would require quite a

621
00:28:10,010 --> 00:28:07,140
lot of

622
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:10,020
you know trying trying to parse out like

623
00:28:16,610 --> 00:28:14,640
what is religious belief what is

624
00:28:17,810 --> 00:28:16,620
you know genuinely seeing something

625
00:28:20,510 --> 00:28:17,820
maybe

626
00:28:22,669 --> 00:28:20,520
even misinterpreting it

627
00:28:25,250 --> 00:28:22,679
um you know I don't want to say anything

628
00:28:26,990 --> 00:28:25,260
about anyone who's seen anything

629
00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:27,000
um but you know if you do have a

630
00:28:32,690 --> 00:28:28,799
religious belief you you know you see

631
00:28:33,769 --> 00:28:32,700
something weird and you know you might

632
00:28:36,110 --> 00:28:33,779
um

633
00:28:37,070 --> 00:28:36,120
explain it using your religious World

634
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:37,080
belief

635
00:28:42,289 --> 00:28:39,840
um and that's you know again that's

636
00:28:44,990 --> 00:28:42,299
something worth covering just not from a

637
00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:45,000
cryptozoology standpoint right

638
00:28:49,310 --> 00:28:47,640
uh Andrew boy asked about sea monster of

639
00:28:50,690 --> 00:28:49,320
course we're getting into Oceania now

640
00:28:52,730 --> 00:28:50,700
and um

641
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:52,740
you know of course we we're very

642
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:54,960
familiar with all the sea monster uh

643
00:29:00,830 --> 00:28:58,080
sightings uh the Whalers and other semen

644
00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:00,840
from you know from the United States and

645
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:05,220
Canada uh what have the the Islanders in

646
00:29:09,769 --> 00:29:07,440
the South Pacific in Oceana

647
00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:09,779
but have they experienced what do they

648
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,649
so there's quite a few

649
00:29:19,070 --> 00:29:17,029
dick monsters

650
00:29:23,090 --> 00:29:19,080
there's actually two

651
00:29:24,850 --> 00:29:23,100
and iffy uh both of whom live in

652
00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:24,860
landlocked Lakes

653
00:29:30,889 --> 00:29:28,380
so definitely very interesting uh cussy

654
00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:30,899
is one of usually described as more of a

655
00:29:34,730 --> 00:29:33,240
plesiosaur while Essie is described as

656
00:29:37,070 --> 00:29:34,740
EOL like

657
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:37,080
so

658
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:39,120
um you know you kind of have both sides

659
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:41,039
of the coin you know usually when you

660
00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:42,480
talk about something like the Loch Ness

661
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,460
monster you get the debate over whether

662
00:29:49,250 --> 00:29:46,559
it's like a plesiosaur whether it's like

663
00:29:53,149 --> 00:29:49,260
an eel so that was that was definitely

664
00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:53,159
something interesting there is also I'm

665
00:29:58,430 --> 00:29:55,320
sure everyone's you know familiar with

666
00:30:00,110 --> 00:29:58,440
the Megalodon that does get reported

667
00:30:01,490 --> 00:30:00,120
from time to time

668
00:30:06,289 --> 00:30:01,500
um definitely from a scientific

669
00:30:08,510 --> 00:30:06,299
perspective I I guess would not I would

670
00:30:10,490 --> 00:30:08,520
not put money on it

671
00:30:12,169 --> 00:30:10,500
um but it is something that people have

672
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:12,179
reported

673
00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:14,880
um and you know I guess if they are

674
00:30:20,210 --> 00:30:16,140
still around we'll have to get Jason

675
00:30:25,610 --> 00:30:23,570
um and I'm trying to think of there

676
00:30:27,289 --> 00:30:25,620
there are a couple other ones

677
00:30:28,850 --> 00:30:27,299
um there is another one in Japan that's

678
00:30:31,549 --> 00:30:28,860
basically a

679
00:30:32,510 --> 00:30:31,559
huge octopus

680
00:30:39,549 --> 00:30:32,520
um

681
00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:39,559
any Japanese viewers uh the Acker

682
00:30:46,210 --> 00:30:45,360
verkumia so just absolutely huge

683
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:46,220
um

684
00:30:51,289 --> 00:30:48,720
you know octopus

685
00:30:54,130 --> 00:30:51,299
um you know the reports would actually

686
00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:54,140
dwarf even the giant squid which is

687
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:56,940
pretty pretty huge

688
00:31:00,049 --> 00:30:57,840
um

689
00:31:02,810 --> 00:31:00,059
so you know that's definitely something

690
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:02,820
where you you kind of look at and you go

691
00:31:09,130 --> 00:31:06,240
you know especially when you're on

692
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:09,140
the sea you know things can get a bit

693
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:12,960
so but definitely definitely interesting

694
00:31:18,769 --> 00:31:15,120
um so because I that was another one I

695
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:18,779
had never heard of before so yeah I I uh

696
00:31:24,289 --> 00:31:21,120
not long ago was not too many years ago

697
00:31:27,470 --> 00:31:24,299
there was an actual footage from a um

698
00:31:31,370 --> 00:31:27,480
of a large squid that a Japanese

699
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:31,380
fisherman had pulled up and um and they

700
00:31:36,830 --> 00:31:34,320
pulled up some pretty decent sized uh

701
00:31:38,990 --> 00:31:36,840
Jellyfish as well which I I'm quite sure

702
00:31:41,930 --> 00:31:39,000
could be mistaken for some type of sea

703
00:31:45,310 --> 00:31:41,940
creature and somebody's perspective but

704
00:31:47,570 --> 00:31:45,320
uh yeah there do seem to be some large

705
00:31:50,029 --> 00:31:47,580
squid out there of course we've all

706
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:50,039
heard about the Kraken and the other

707
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:53,760
so-called uh killer squid or killer

708
00:31:58,370 --> 00:31:55,919
octopus but um

709
00:32:01,510 --> 00:31:58,380
you know we've we have had some footage

710
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:01,520
of some some very large um

711
00:32:06,409 --> 00:32:04,320
a squid even down in Australia there

712
00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:06,419
have been a few that have been captured

713
00:32:11,810 --> 00:32:10,200
and examined and looked at so uh they're

714
00:32:13,370 --> 00:32:11,820
out there I'm quite sure they're out

715
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:13,380
there uh you know

716
00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:15,600
yeah there's so little we know

717
00:32:20,690 --> 00:32:18,720
definitely very very wild you know

718
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:20,700
something like you know the giant squid

719
00:32:25,549 --> 00:32:23,039
and the colossal squid where we

720
00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:25,559
basically only have

721
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:27,600
a juvenile

722
00:32:30,409 --> 00:32:28,799
um bodies

723
00:32:32,570 --> 00:32:30,419
and you know they're they're they're

724
00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:32,580
they're already huge

725
00:32:37,610 --> 00:32:36,000
because you know it's like man I yeah I

726
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:37,620
definitely don't want to fight a giant

727
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,250
no yeah

728
00:32:45,260 --> 00:32:52,070
they can chew you up pretty bad

729
00:33:01,909 --> 00:32:56,510
um

730
00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:01,919
stories over the years from people in

731
00:33:05,389 --> 00:33:04,559
Asia of different things

732
00:33:07,549 --> 00:33:05,399
um

733
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,559
of course you know the one that always

734
00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:09,600
fascinates me as the Mongolian death

735
00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:12,960
worm that thing you know and I I've I

736
00:33:15,950 --> 00:33:14,580
knew a couple people who were in

737
00:33:17,630 --> 00:33:15,960
expeditions

738
00:33:18,970 --> 00:33:17,640
for these things

739
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:18,980
um

740
00:33:23,149 --> 00:33:21,600
they didn't necessarily find one but

741
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:23,159
they you know some of the things they

742
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:24,480
talked about

743
00:33:29,870 --> 00:33:27,360
uh uh we're pretty hairy I mean I don't

744
00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:29,880
know what what what do you believe

745
00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:32,220
is the the existence of these things you

746
00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:34,320
think they're real

747
00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:36,840
so I I couldn't really find anything

748
00:33:42,830 --> 00:33:40,799
that led me to think yes this is

749
00:33:44,330 --> 00:33:42,840
definitely real I have you know pretty

750
00:33:45,769 --> 00:33:44,340
decent confidence

751
00:33:48,049 --> 00:33:45,779
but at the same time there wasn't

752
00:33:51,169 --> 00:33:48,059
anything that made me think

753
00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:51,179
this definitely doesn't exist you know

754
00:33:57,230 --> 00:33:55,260
there's definitely a lot of

755
00:34:01,250 --> 00:33:57,240
you know researchers talking to people

756
00:34:02,529 --> 00:34:01,260
who live in the area saying I you know

757
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:02,539
like

758
00:34:11,089 --> 00:34:08,879
I I don't know my my brother's cousin or

759
00:34:13,310 --> 00:34:11,099
something you know died died because a

760
00:34:16,909 --> 00:34:13,320
Mongolian deathworm made him uh but you

761
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:16,919
know also genuine fear concern

762
00:34:22,010 --> 00:34:19,440
um so definitely something

763
00:34:24,169 --> 00:34:22,020
some something interesting is definitely

764
00:34:26,510 --> 00:34:24,179
going on there I think some of the more

765
00:34:28,849 --> 00:34:26,520
outlandish

766
00:34:30,530 --> 00:34:28,859
um claims about it I know

767
00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:30,540
um it used to be

768
00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:31,800
um

769
00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:34,800
kind of part of the mythology that it

770
00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:37,679
could like shoot electrical currents

771
00:34:41,149 --> 00:34:38,820
um

772
00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:41,159
I I def you know if I was going to put

773
00:34:45,409 --> 00:34:43,260
money on the Mongolian death worm I

774
00:34:49,490 --> 00:34:45,419
would definitely not put money down on

775
00:34:50,930 --> 00:34:49,500
any uh laser electrical currents uh

776
00:34:54,109 --> 00:34:50,940
death worms

777
00:34:57,890 --> 00:34:54,119
but you know there is still you know

778
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:59,030
um

779
00:35:04,609 --> 00:35:01,440
you know a lot of people who actually

780
00:35:05,870 --> 00:35:04,619
live in these areas see these creatures

781
00:35:11,089 --> 00:35:05,880
and

782
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:11,099
general will just go

783
00:35:17,630 --> 00:35:14,880
no like that that can't happen uh that's

784
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:17,640
just wrong and then you know we've seen

785
00:35:22,490 --> 00:35:20,640
time and time again that you know the

786
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:22,500
people who actually live there

787
00:35:25,550 --> 00:35:24,000
we're right

788
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:25,560
um you know with the coelacanth the

789
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:26,760
Okapi

790
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:29,520
um mountain gorillas like there's just a

791
00:35:35,089 --> 00:35:33,359
whole list absolutely so so I mean you

792
00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:35,099
know when someone who actually lives in

793
00:35:39,950 --> 00:35:37,140
the area and multiple people who live in

794
00:35:41,870 --> 00:35:39,960
the area say you know like

795
00:35:46,130 --> 00:35:41,880
you know we've seen this thing for

796
00:35:48,349 --> 00:35:46,140
literal centuries you know it's kind of

797
00:35:50,270 --> 00:35:48,359
you know who am I to say no that that

798
00:35:52,430 --> 00:35:50,280
doesn't

799
00:35:54,530 --> 00:35:52,440
that that's wrong you're wrong right and

800
00:35:57,290 --> 00:35:54,540
I've never been to Mongolia so I

801
00:35:58,730 --> 00:35:57,300
definitely don't have you know every

802
00:36:01,730 --> 00:35:58,740
time I see that picture of the death

803
00:36:03,890 --> 00:36:01,740
worm I think about the the huge worms

804
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:03,900
from Dune I don't know why but it kind

805
00:36:10,130 --> 00:36:07,440
of reminds me of it

806
00:36:11,690 --> 00:36:10,140
um actually it was yeah it was funny one

807
00:36:14,210 --> 00:36:11,700
of the things that came up while I was

808
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:14,220
researching uh the Mongolian death worm

809
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,800
was and I am I'm blanking on the

810
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:18,480
researcher's name he actually did pass

811
00:36:23,569 --> 00:36:21,359
away uh semi-recently but he would

812
00:36:25,970 --> 00:36:23,579
actually use

813
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:25,980
um like Sound Vibrations so similar

814
00:36:30,170 --> 00:36:28,079
inspired by Dune

815
00:36:32,510 --> 00:36:30,180
because obviously

816
00:36:35,150 --> 00:36:32,520
the worms would like yeah they'd be

817
00:36:38,210 --> 00:36:35,160
attracted to the vibration absolutely

818
00:36:41,329 --> 00:36:38,220
interesting exactly and yes if you like

819
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:41,339
develop like this device that you just

820
00:36:47,930 --> 00:36:44,880
created like these minor Tremors

821
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:47,940
um so definitely definitely interesting

822
00:36:53,329 --> 00:36:50,400
so there is definitely a lot of

823
00:36:55,790 --> 00:36:53,339
you know Crossover with Dune Laura I

824
00:37:01,250 --> 00:36:59,089
uh Logan asked um any recent sightings

825
00:37:03,950 --> 00:37:01,260
or information on the Ninja

826
00:37:07,609 --> 00:37:03,960
uh he says a fairly convincing pictures

827
00:37:10,130 --> 00:37:07,619
and uh and videos yeah I've seen a lot

828
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:10,140
of those ninjin pictures before I don't

829
00:37:15,470 --> 00:37:11,760
know how real they are

830
00:37:16,849 --> 00:37:15,480
uh they kind of see a seem obscure to me

831
00:37:18,589 --> 00:37:16,859
but I don't know what are your thoughts

832
00:37:22,190 --> 00:37:18,599
on this

833
00:37:24,349 --> 00:37:22,200
yeah so I honestly I wouldn't say I

834
00:37:26,329 --> 00:37:24,359
looked too far into it again that's a

835
00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:26,339
lot of trying to find the difference

836
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:27,380
between

837
00:37:34,010 --> 00:37:30,960
cryptozoology and the folklore behind it

838
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:34,020
and more paranormal uh things and

839
00:37:38,510 --> 00:37:35,760
obviously a lot of that can be a very

840
00:37:40,730 --> 00:37:38,520
hard line to draw

841
00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:40,740
um so it's not something that I would

842
00:37:45,950 --> 00:37:43,680
say I particularly looked into

843
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,960
um so

844
00:37:50,750 --> 00:37:47,520
but definitely definitely something

845
00:37:54,530 --> 00:37:52,609
um

846
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:54,540
yeah Luke also mentioned something which

847
00:37:59,810 --> 00:37:57,119
is interesting about fault forms and uh

848
00:38:01,730 --> 00:37:59,820
being associated with Cryptids

849
00:38:03,530 --> 00:38:01,740
he talks about slender man you know this

850
00:38:05,390 --> 00:38:03,540
is something else that I've looked at in

851
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:05,400
my research as far as thought forms

852
00:38:09,849 --> 00:38:06,320
people

853
00:38:12,589 --> 00:38:09,859
uh mind manifesting these creatures and

854
00:38:14,569 --> 00:38:12,599
you know a lot of cryptozoologists have

855
00:38:18,770 --> 00:38:14,579
have written about that you know tulpas

856
00:38:20,569 --> 00:38:18,780
are our thought forms uh not necessarily

857
00:38:23,450 --> 00:38:20,579
relics but something being fault

858
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:23,460
manifested and uh appearing

859
00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:25,680
right and I I believe that's entirely

860
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:28,920
possible what do you think about that

861
00:38:35,329 --> 00:38:32,400
yeah I usually I wouldn't say I put you

862
00:38:38,810 --> 00:38:37,010
into

863
00:38:41,150 --> 00:38:38,820
um the more paranormal

864
00:38:43,370 --> 00:38:41,160
um explanations for Cryptids you know I

865
00:38:46,250 --> 00:38:43,380
know I know there's a pretty decently

866
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:46,260
common one where you know Bigfoot is

867
00:38:50,810 --> 00:38:49,200
either an alien or some kind of you know

868
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:50,820
teleporting creature

869
00:38:57,650 --> 00:38:52,880
and I I

870
00:39:00,050 --> 00:38:57,660
again like I I don't you know I I can't

871
00:39:01,190 --> 00:39:00,060
say whether that's not a thing well

872
00:39:02,329 --> 00:39:01,200
you're not gonna hurt my feelings

873
00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:02,339
because I believe there's some

874
00:39:05,450 --> 00:39:03,900
connection here but you know you can see

875
00:39:09,170 --> 00:39:05,460
what you want to say that's what you're

876
00:39:11,690 --> 00:39:09,180
on here for what no yeah you know I've

877
00:39:15,290 --> 00:39:11,700
met I've met a ton of researchers who do

878
00:39:17,089 --> 00:39:15,300
a lot of great research on you know the

879
00:39:19,490 --> 00:39:17,099
connection there

880
00:39:22,430 --> 00:39:19,500
um I think from my personal standpoint

881
00:39:25,329 --> 00:39:22,440
it's looking at

882
00:39:28,910 --> 00:39:25,339
you know the more physical

883
00:39:30,890 --> 00:39:28,920
manifestations and again you know I I

884
00:39:33,230 --> 00:39:30,900
think as long as everyone's kind of just

885
00:39:35,410 --> 00:39:33,240
respecting each other and you know all

886
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:35,420
working towards like this common goal of

887
00:39:39,950 --> 00:39:38,640
figuring out what's going on you know I

888
00:39:41,810 --> 00:39:39,960
don't have a problem with it personally

889
00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:41,820
I I don't know how long you've been

890
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:44,160
involved with the community as far as

891
00:39:49,849 --> 00:39:46,880
cryptozoology and Cryptids and such but

892
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:49,859
there has been a big Chasm between the

893
00:39:57,550 --> 00:39:53,040
Flesh and Blood and the uh this the

894
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:57,560
supernatural Cryptid theories uh yes

895
00:40:03,890 --> 00:39:59,359
I remember

896
00:40:06,290 --> 00:40:03,900
people are more open to it now but there

897
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:06,300
used to be a large Chasm and a lot of

898
00:40:12,170 --> 00:40:09,359
arguments you would go to a uh you would

899
00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:12,180
go to a conference maybe 10 15 years ago

900
00:40:16,849 --> 00:40:14,760
and you'd had researchers there arguing

901
00:40:18,410 --> 00:40:16,859
with each other out in the open about it

902
00:40:21,770 --> 00:40:18,420
and um

903
00:40:23,630 --> 00:40:21,780
and I but more recently I think it's got

904
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:23,640
to the point now since you know a lot of

905
00:40:27,530 --> 00:40:24,960
these things haven't showed up

906
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:27,540
physically or we have no evidence of

907
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,800
them particularly I'm talking about

908
00:40:33,710 --> 00:40:30,560
Bigfoot arm

909
00:40:35,690 --> 00:40:33,720
canine Cryptids or such that you know

910
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,700
some are some people are starting to

911
00:40:39,370 --> 00:40:37,440
open up and say well maybe there is

912
00:40:40,970 --> 00:40:39,380
something to that

913
00:40:51,170 --> 00:40:40,980
yeah

914
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:51,180
lot of the a lot of the you know

915
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:54,480
in-person fights never you know ignoring

916
00:40:59,329 --> 00:40:57,359
like you know just huge fights and

917
00:41:01,130 --> 00:40:59,339
Facebook groups and such

918
00:41:02,750 --> 00:41:01,140
um because I lived in Texas at the time

919
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:02,760
so there was a lot of

920
00:41:07,370 --> 00:41:04,560
talk of

921
00:41:11,089 --> 00:41:07,380
well if people keep shooting at Bigfoot

922
00:41:12,589 --> 00:41:11,099
and they keep missing you know

923
00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:12,599
um

924
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:16,320
you know where where's the body

925
00:41:20,450 --> 00:41:18,000
so

926
00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:20,460
yeah you know again that's just not

927
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:22,740
something that

928
00:41:28,310 --> 00:41:25,200
you know if if I could dedicate my whole

929
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:28,320
life to finding Cryptids I don't think

930
00:41:33,710 --> 00:41:31,200
that's really an ad you know an Avenue

931
00:41:35,890 --> 00:41:33,720
that I would really pursue but you know

932
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:35,900
if if it's true you know

933
00:41:42,410 --> 00:41:40,079
yeah I think we haven't found any real

934
00:41:43,690 --> 00:41:42,420
physical evidence of Cryptids for the

935
00:41:46,310 --> 00:41:43,700
most part

936
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:46,320
yeah I think it kind of varies by

937
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:48,480
Cryptid and I know that's kind of a

938
00:41:52,730 --> 00:41:49,920
cop-out answer

939
00:41:54,829 --> 00:41:52,740
something like Bigfoot and admittedly

940
00:41:56,329 --> 00:41:54,839
that is not my um

941
00:41:59,210 --> 00:41:56,339
Main

942
00:42:03,530 --> 00:41:59,220
area of research but things are pretty

943
00:42:05,450 --> 00:42:03,540
quick to decompose and some something is

944
00:42:09,710 --> 00:42:05,460
you know like

945
00:42:12,410 --> 00:42:09,720
Humanities had burial rituals for

946
00:42:13,550 --> 00:42:12,420
you know centuries

947
00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:13,560
um

948
00:42:17,890 --> 00:42:15,599
and you know like there's there's

949
00:42:22,130 --> 00:42:17,900
neanderthals where we've seen them have

950
00:42:26,030 --> 00:42:22,140
these funeral burial rituals

951
00:42:28,730 --> 00:42:26,040
um so who's to say that a semi-advanced

952
00:42:31,010 --> 00:42:28,740
primate doesn't also have something like

953
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:31,020
that and now that I'm saying that I

954
00:42:35,810 --> 00:42:32,640
think chimpanzees or gorillas have

955
00:42:37,970 --> 00:42:35,820
something relatively similar

956
00:42:41,690 --> 00:42:37,980
um so maybe they eat each other I don't

957
00:42:44,569 --> 00:42:41,700
know maybe yeah yeah I mean I know some

958
00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:44,579
chimpanzees will actually do that

959
00:42:51,530 --> 00:42:48,720
um yeah so I think I think bonobos do

960
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:51,540
too so bonobos do

961
00:42:58,010 --> 00:42:54,000
yes

962
00:42:59,870 --> 00:42:58,020
um well so go ahead yeah so yeah I think

963
00:43:02,390 --> 00:42:59,880
it does just kind of depend

964
00:43:05,390 --> 00:43:02,400
by Cryptid

965
00:43:07,730 --> 00:43:05,400
and some of them

966
00:43:09,530 --> 00:43:07,740
you know um

967
00:43:12,410 --> 00:43:09,540
honestly some of them just might not

968
00:43:14,690 --> 00:43:12,420
exist I don't want to say like oh yeah

969
00:43:17,870 --> 00:43:14,700
this definitely doesn't exist

970
00:43:19,550 --> 00:43:17,880
um but there is you know that thing you

971
00:43:25,630 --> 00:43:19,560
know that

972
00:43:28,910 --> 00:43:25,640
like cryptids in

973
00:43:31,210 --> 00:43:28,920
Asia and Oceana they are in those areas

974
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:31,220
that aren't necessarily being explored

975
00:43:35,870 --> 00:43:33,359
frequently and going back to you know

976
00:43:39,710 --> 00:43:35,880
decomposing

977
00:43:42,530 --> 00:43:39,720
um you know like let's say you have um

978
00:43:45,650 --> 00:43:42,540
you know like an orang pen deck and it

979
00:43:47,870 --> 00:43:45,660
passes away it you know like it just

980
00:43:50,089 --> 00:43:47,880
dies in the forest one day it might be

981
00:43:53,210 --> 00:43:50,099
years before someone even steps in like

982
00:43:54,770 --> 00:43:53,220
a square kilometer of that area oh

983
00:43:56,329 --> 00:43:54,780
absolutely by that by that point

984
00:43:58,970 --> 00:43:56,339
something might have picked off the

985
00:44:01,730 --> 00:43:58,980
bones uh the Skin's gone

986
00:44:03,230 --> 00:44:01,740
so it's

987
00:44:05,569 --> 00:44:03,240
yeah it's definitely something that

988
00:44:06,290 --> 00:44:05,579
varies by Cryptid

989
00:44:08,569 --> 00:44:06,300
um

990
00:44:09,770 --> 00:44:08,579
so

991
00:44:17,809 --> 00:44:09,780
you know

992
00:44:21,230 --> 00:44:17,819
theory is definitely wrong unless there

993
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,240
is something you know very wrong with it

994
00:44:26,569 --> 00:44:23,760
um but I don't think with you know the

995
00:44:28,490 --> 00:44:26,579
Paranormal or extraterrestrial

996
00:44:32,089 --> 00:44:28,500
Bigfoot or other Cryptids like I don't

997
00:44:33,290 --> 00:44:32,099
think that's like inherently wrong I

998
00:44:36,829 --> 00:44:33,300
mean

999
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:36,839
as long as we're all collaborating to

1000
00:44:41,630 --> 00:44:39,839
figure out uh the mystery I I think

1001
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:41,640
that's all that matters you know you

1002
00:44:45,050 --> 00:44:43,920
know like detectives working together if

1003
00:44:46,910 --> 00:44:45,060
they have different

1004
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:46,920
culprits in mind they don't start

1005
00:44:51,710 --> 00:44:49,920
yelling at each other or whatever

1006
00:44:53,870 --> 00:44:51,720
I I wish it was like that but

1007
00:44:56,270 --> 00:44:53,880
realistically it just does not turn out

1008
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:56,280
that way many times that's true

1009
00:44:58,490 --> 00:44:57,599
unfortunately

1010
00:45:00,890 --> 00:44:58,500
um

1011
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:00,900
Vincent wanted to know and I did too uh

1012
00:45:05,809 --> 00:45:03,119
have you had any encounters yourself or

1013
00:45:07,970 --> 00:45:05,819
Cryptids or even the Paranormal

1014
00:45:10,730 --> 00:45:07,980
so not with Cryptids although

1015
00:45:13,089 --> 00:45:10,740
interestingly enough I was in Point

1016
00:45:15,530 --> 00:45:13,099
Pleasant in 2009

1017
00:45:17,150 --> 00:45:15,540
I believe it was

1018
00:45:18,530 --> 00:45:17,160
July or August

1019
00:45:21,050 --> 00:45:18,540
and

1020
00:45:22,970 --> 00:45:21,060
I was actually staying in the room that

1021
00:45:26,030 --> 00:45:22,980
John Keel had been in when he was

1022
00:45:27,890 --> 00:45:26,040
writing the Mothman Prophecies my

1023
00:45:30,650 --> 00:45:27,900
parents specifically booked that because

1024
00:45:32,930 --> 00:45:30,660
I was very fascinated with Mothman

1025
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:32,940
and

1026
00:45:39,650 --> 00:45:36,000
at one point I I had

1027
00:45:43,370 --> 00:45:39,660
gotten up to go get water from you know

1028
00:45:46,609 --> 00:45:43,380
the um the ensuite bathroom and then I

1029
00:45:48,349 --> 00:45:46,619
was coming back out and I I kind of like

1030
00:45:49,329 --> 00:45:48,359
looked to the right and there was like

1031
00:45:52,910 --> 00:45:49,339
this

1032
00:45:53,630 --> 00:45:52,920
white Haze in the mirror

1033
00:45:57,530 --> 00:45:53,640
um

1034
00:46:00,589 --> 00:45:57,540
and I was like oh this is uh I don't

1035
00:46:04,190 --> 00:46:00,599
like that so I like hit under the covers

1036
00:46:06,650 --> 00:46:04,200
and I was like clutching the Bible I was

1037
00:46:08,329 --> 00:46:06,660
like oh my gosh I'm gonna die and I kept

1038
00:46:11,870 --> 00:46:08,339
like peeking out to see if it had gone

1039
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:11,880
away but it was you know regardless of

1040
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:13,440
like the angle you were looking at it

1041
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:16,319
was just kind of always there

1042
00:46:20,750 --> 00:46:16,880
um

1043
00:46:22,910 --> 00:46:20,760
and you know eventually I just

1044
00:46:25,730 --> 00:46:22,920
I I got up and I ran in my parents room

1045
00:46:27,829 --> 00:46:25,740
and I was like switch rooms with me I

1046
00:46:29,630 --> 00:46:27,839
want to stay with Mom and my Dad slept

1047
00:46:31,130 --> 00:46:29,640
there and he didn't see anything so

1048
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:31,140
right

1049
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:35,520
uh very interesting yeah well you know

1050
00:46:41,089 --> 00:46:38,880
Point Pleasant uh kind of grues on

1051
00:46:43,790 --> 00:46:41,099
people I've been there several times I

1052
00:46:46,190 --> 00:46:43,800
went you know I'm I have always been

1053
00:46:47,690 --> 00:46:46,200
fascinated with the Mothman and Wing

1054
00:46:52,490 --> 00:46:47,700
human noise I had an encounter Back in

1055
00:46:55,069 --> 00:46:52,500
88 myself and uh yeah it's um

1056
00:46:58,250 --> 00:46:55,079
and of course our team has been involved

1057
00:47:02,750 --> 00:46:58,260
with the Chicago malt man uh phenomena

1058
00:47:07,250 --> 00:47:04,670
we've written several books about them

1059
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:07,260
so yeah I but you know it always comes

1060
00:47:11,290 --> 00:47:09,359
back to Point Pleasant

1061
00:47:14,030 --> 00:47:11,300
and um

1062
00:47:16,670 --> 00:47:14,040
yeah there there's just something about

1063
00:47:27,010 --> 00:47:16,680
that town it's it's not just the Mothman

1064
00:47:32,270 --> 00:47:29,930
there's just a feeling it's not even

1065
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:32,280
necessarily you know you know I've heard

1066
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:33,839
people and they describe like Paranormal

1067
00:47:39,050 --> 00:47:36,240
experience so like you know I just felt

1068
00:47:41,290 --> 00:47:39,060
like this evil in the room and it wasn't

1069
00:47:43,609 --> 00:47:41,300
necessarily that it was just

1070
00:47:45,950 --> 00:47:43,619
odd you know

1071
00:47:47,930 --> 00:47:45,960
I I think it was particularly in the

1072
00:47:49,609 --> 00:47:47,940
McLean talk or uh the West Virginia

1073
00:47:51,530 --> 00:47:49,619
ordinance Sports area people call the

1074
00:47:53,450 --> 00:47:51,540
TNT plant

1075
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:53,460
um I I believe there's some very strong

1076
00:47:59,390 --> 00:47:56,640
indigenous energy there and

1077
00:48:01,010 --> 00:47:59,400
um you know I have heard a ton of EVPs

1078
00:48:02,750 --> 00:48:01,020
coming out of there I've heard things

1079
00:48:05,210 --> 00:48:02,760
myself being there

1080
00:48:07,490 --> 00:48:05,220
I've researched the area a couple times

1081
00:48:10,490 --> 00:48:07,500
over the years myself and have been with

1082
00:48:13,490 --> 00:48:10,500
other people and uh you know it never

1083
00:48:15,309 --> 00:48:13,500
fails to amaze me with something or

1084
00:48:18,109 --> 00:48:15,319
something always turns up

1085
00:48:20,030 --> 00:48:18,119
and of course uh and you know the

1086
00:48:23,329 --> 00:48:20,040
Mothman sightings are still taking place

1087
00:48:27,170 --> 00:48:23,339
in the area that whole County

1088
00:48:30,890 --> 00:48:27,180
um in the old area overall I mean we

1089
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:30,900
have had a a fair amount of winged

1090
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:32,880
humanoid or Mothman sightings in there

1091
00:48:37,970 --> 00:48:36,240
plus other things so uh yeah that town

1092
00:48:40,550 --> 00:48:37,980
is uh there's something about Point

1093
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:40,560
Pleasant there's no doubt about it

1094
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:46,490
so um I think it's a Mothman statue I

1095
00:48:51,050 --> 00:48:49,680
think it's cursed uh I don't know you

1096
00:48:52,910 --> 00:48:51,060
know

1097
00:48:54,589 --> 00:48:52,920
um I've had people tell me that before

1098
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:54,599
I've had people who said they've had

1099
00:48:59,329 --> 00:48:56,880
pictures taken with those things with

1100
00:49:02,390 --> 00:48:59,339
that thing and it just freaks them out I

1101
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:02,400
don't know yeah I remember yeah back in

1102
00:49:05,089 --> 00:49:04,079
back in the day when I was when I was in

1103
00:49:07,069 --> 00:49:05,099
Middle School

1104
00:49:08,750 --> 00:49:07,079
um one of my one of my my science

1105
00:49:11,089 --> 00:49:08,760
teacher actually dared me to do a whole

1106
00:49:15,530 --> 00:49:11,099
presentation on cryptozoology because I

1107
00:49:18,589 --> 00:49:15,540
was always use crypted examples for um

1108
00:49:22,970 --> 00:49:18,599
for like projects and such

1109
00:49:27,170 --> 00:49:22,980
so and then on my Mothman slide I I had

1110
00:49:28,370 --> 00:49:27,180
a photo of that statue and every time I

1111
00:49:30,050 --> 00:49:28,380
see the statue it just makes me laugh

1112
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:30,060
because I could just remember my teacher

1113
00:49:33,050 --> 00:49:30,960
going

1114
00:49:35,890 --> 00:49:33,060
hold up Carol does does that thing have

1115
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:35,900
like six-pack abs

1116
00:49:42,109 --> 00:49:40,319
like wow like you know

1117
00:49:44,329 --> 00:49:42,119
you know that statue is always

1118
00:49:45,770 --> 00:49:44,339
fascinating me because quite honestly it

1119
00:49:47,870 --> 00:49:45,780
doesn't look anything like any of the

1120
00:49:48,849 --> 00:49:47,880
descriptions of that thing to be honest

1121
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:48,859
with you

1122
00:49:53,450 --> 00:49:51,599
uh it looks more like what we've been

1123
00:49:56,809 --> 00:49:53,460
seeing out in Chicago as opposed to what

1124
00:49:59,450 --> 00:49:56,819
would be so unpoint pleasant and uh you

1125
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:59,460
know with the big bulging red eyes and

1126
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,240
um

1127
00:50:05,630 --> 00:50:03,119
you know the kind of actual

1128
00:50:07,069 --> 00:50:05,640
human body I mean you know they called

1129
00:50:10,970 --> 00:50:07,079
it Mothman for a reason because it

1130
00:50:13,550 --> 00:50:10,980
looked like a friggin moth yeah so yeah

1131
00:50:16,130 --> 00:50:13,560
you know

1132
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:16,140
every people I talk they always bring up

1133
00:50:21,050 --> 00:50:18,720
the Mothman Prophecies movie but quite

1134
00:50:23,390 --> 00:50:21,060
frankly if you they hadn't read Mothman

1135
00:50:25,309 --> 00:50:23,400
Prophecies book then they're just really

1136
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:25,319
missing out because the movie really did

1137
00:50:32,030 --> 00:50:29,040
not do the book Justice whatsoever

1138
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:32,040
yeah I remember yeah when I was when I

1139
00:50:37,970 --> 00:50:36,000
was very into Mothman studies I so I

1140
00:50:39,710 --> 00:50:37,980
read the book and then I watched the

1141
00:50:42,650 --> 00:50:39,720
movie and I think that was the first

1142
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:42,660
time as a kid that I

1143
00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:44,400
um you know had that experience of the

1144
00:50:47,390 --> 00:50:46,260
book is better than the movie

1145
00:50:52,370 --> 00:50:47,400
um

1146
00:50:54,890 --> 00:50:52,380
complain about Harry Potter or such but

1147
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:54,900
um no it was the Mothman Prophecies for

1148
00:50:58,490 --> 00:50:55,920
me

1149
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:58,500
yeah well my for my son and I you know

1150
00:51:04,010 --> 00:51:01,040
my son and I both read The Da Vinci Code

1151
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:04,020
and uh we went to see the movie and uh

1152
00:51:14,510 --> 00:51:11,930
that happens a lot I mean uh there's a

1153
00:51:16,910 --> 00:51:14,520
there's a lot of big movies that

1154
00:51:21,049 --> 00:51:16,920
really do not do the book of Justice

1155
00:51:24,650 --> 00:51:21,059
whatsoever so um yeah that's unfortunate

1156
00:51:27,950 --> 00:51:24,660
so uh you know you've tackled Cryptids

1157
00:51:30,950 --> 00:51:27,960
of Asia and Oceana this time do you have

1158
00:51:34,130 --> 00:51:30,960
any plans to write about any Cryptids or

1159
00:51:36,650 --> 00:51:34,140
any other paranormal or uh

1160
00:51:39,470 --> 00:51:36,660
Supernatural subjects

1161
00:51:41,569 --> 00:51:39,480
so I I every time someone asked me that

1162
00:51:45,370 --> 00:51:41,579
I've been saying I you know I don't

1163
00:51:48,410 --> 00:51:45,380
really have a plan for anything but I

1164
00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:48,420
you know I I think I do want to do like

1165
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:49,920
a full

1166
00:51:55,490 --> 00:51:53,280
deep dive on the Neto the the Sri Lanka

1167
00:51:57,230 --> 00:51:55,500
encrypted that I mentioned I just think

1168
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:57,240
I think there's a lot there and it

1169
00:52:01,790 --> 00:51:59,040
hasn't gotten a lot of

1170
00:52:05,329 --> 00:52:01,800
attention whether from you know

1171
00:52:07,790 --> 00:52:05,339
cryptozoologist or from

1172
00:52:10,670 --> 00:52:07,800
you know mainstream researchers of any

1173
00:52:14,030 --> 00:52:10,680
kind and you know I you know I really

1174
00:52:14,809 --> 00:52:14,040
like to just kind of Deep dive into that

1175
00:52:18,410 --> 00:52:14,819
um

1176
00:52:20,510 --> 00:52:18,420
but otherwise I don't have any plans for

1177
00:52:22,910 --> 00:52:20,520
you know a sequel

1178
00:52:25,370 --> 00:52:22,920
um or you know focused on a different

1179
00:52:27,290 --> 00:52:25,380
region or anything

1180
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:27,300
um you know just kind of maybe maybe

1181
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:29,520
something will start my fancy but

1182
00:52:34,430 --> 00:52:32,400
otherwise no firm plans yeah well I said

1183
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:34,440
that too when I started when I wrote my

1184
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:37,200
first book and then nine books later you

1185
00:52:46,190 --> 00:52:38,400
know

1186
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:46,200
happen but no I I mean I I think

1187
00:52:50,990 --> 00:52:49,440
you should actually find us like you

1188
00:52:53,569 --> 00:52:51,000
said find a subject that really

1189
00:52:55,849 --> 00:52:53,579
fascinates you and go deep into it uh

1190
00:52:57,770 --> 00:52:55,859
you know that's your locking Crypt that

1191
00:53:00,290 --> 00:52:57,780
I I'd be honest with you I'd never heard

1192
00:53:03,230 --> 00:53:00,300
of it or I don't remember it so

1193
00:53:04,849 --> 00:53:03,240
absolutely I'd say go for it

1194
00:53:08,510 --> 00:53:04,859
right on

1195
00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:08,520
yeah so uh do you have any uh do you

1196
00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:12,240
have any conferences or uh anything like

1197
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:15,599
that scheduled or are you going to be uh

1198
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:17,280
doing book signings or doing anything

1199
00:53:22,370 --> 00:53:19,200
like that sort

1200
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:22,380
so I don't have anything planned as far

1201
00:53:26,809 --> 00:53:24,720
as conferences or specific book signings

1202
00:53:29,210 --> 00:53:26,819
go

1203
00:53:31,130 --> 00:53:29,220
so

1204
00:53:33,290 --> 00:53:31,140
um but you know if you do want to sign

1205
00:53:35,150 --> 00:53:33,300
copy feel free to honestly reach out to

1206
00:53:38,270 --> 00:53:35,160
Beyond The Fray I'd be happy to do that

1207
00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:38,280
for any listener who's interested you

1208
00:53:41,690 --> 00:53:40,319
can also get my contact information if

1209
00:53:43,250 --> 00:53:41,700
you read the book and you're just

1210
00:53:45,470 --> 00:53:43,260
curious about one of the Cryptids

1211
00:53:48,010 --> 00:53:45,480
usually pretty much everything I

1212
00:53:50,210 --> 00:53:48,020
research got put in there

1213
00:53:52,130 --> 00:53:50,220
you know for some of the Cryptids there

1214
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:52,140
wasn't a lot so kind of had to put

1215
00:53:56,210 --> 00:53:54,240
everything in there

1216
00:53:57,710 --> 00:53:56,220
um but

1217
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:57,720
um you know uh

1218
00:54:02,990 --> 00:54:00,480
yeah and I I would love to go to a

1219
00:54:05,450 --> 00:54:03,000
conference I you know again back when I

1220
00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:05,460
was living in Texas we would go to the

1221
00:54:08,750 --> 00:54:07,440
Texas Bigfoot research conference like

1222
00:54:11,630 --> 00:54:08,760
every year

1223
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,640
um so I would definitely love to be able

1224
00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:13,200
to go to a conference give a

1225
00:54:16,809 --> 00:54:15,599
presentation sign some books get to know

1226
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:16,819
people

1227
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:19,920
and yeah so that would be a ton of fun

1228
00:54:26,210 --> 00:54:21,839
so

1229
00:54:28,430 --> 00:54:26,220
long way you can go

1230
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:28,440
um and it's nice to see younger folks

1231
00:54:31,849 --> 00:54:29,760
get involved with this with

1232
00:54:32,809 --> 00:54:31,859
cryptozoology

1233
00:54:34,970 --> 00:54:32,819
um

1234
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:34,980
it's just not as old farts that are

1235
00:54:38,990 --> 00:54:36,960
doing it and there's a lot of younger

1236
00:54:41,630 --> 00:54:39,000
people getting involved with it as well

1237
00:54:43,069 --> 00:54:41,640
you may actually want to start and I

1238
00:54:45,530 --> 00:54:43,079
don't know if you have a website or not

1239
00:54:47,569 --> 00:54:45,540
you may want to start doing some type of

1240
00:54:50,510 --> 00:54:47,579
updates and stuff to keep people

1241
00:54:53,089 --> 00:54:50,520
informed um it may help you in selling

1242
00:54:56,089 --> 00:54:53,099
books and getting people interested in

1243
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:56,099
your research yeah yeah it's definitely

1244
00:55:01,010 --> 00:54:57,839
something you know

1245
00:55:02,270 --> 00:55:01,020
might definitely consider I should also

1246
00:55:04,630 --> 00:55:02,280
mention

1247
00:55:08,270 --> 00:55:04,640
um I guess while we're asking about

1248
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:08,280
my you know future plans and such so my

1249
00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:11,040
my father is actually now working for

1250
00:55:17,089 --> 00:55:14,220
the center for Fortune zoology as the

1251
00:55:20,690 --> 00:55:17,099
Canadian chair so he is working on

1252
00:55:23,690 --> 00:55:20,700
getting a group to go to a particular

1253
00:55:26,270 --> 00:55:23,700
Park to go on a Sasquatch Expedition so

1254
00:55:28,370 --> 00:55:26,280
if anyone is interested in that I would

1255
00:55:31,010 --> 00:55:28,380
definitely re you know reach out to the

1256
00:55:34,670 --> 00:55:31,020
Center for Fortran zoology my dad's

1257
00:55:37,370 --> 00:55:34,680
David Scott so uh tell them I didn't

1258
00:55:40,490 --> 00:55:37,380
know that okay

1259
00:55:43,370 --> 00:55:40,500
um yeah so you know and we can get that

1260
00:55:46,010 --> 00:55:43,380
set up I will definitely be going to

1261
00:55:48,109 --> 00:55:46,020
that so that will be my first

1262
00:55:50,270 --> 00:55:48,119
Sasquatch Expedition so we'll see how

1263
00:55:52,370 --> 00:55:50,280
that goes well excellent

1264
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:52,380
well Carol thanks for coming on tonight

1265
00:55:56,990 --> 00:55:54,960
it was great having you and uh you know

1266
00:55:59,089 --> 00:55:57,000
any updates come let me know

1267
00:56:01,790 --> 00:55:59,099
all right definitely great talking to

1268
00:56:04,190 --> 00:56:01,800
you you take care of everyone who um

1269
00:56:08,589 --> 00:56:04,200
came out okay you have a good weekend

1270
00:56:13,549 --> 00:56:11,450
so if uh you have a citing or encounter

1271
00:56:16,609 --> 00:56:13,559
report that you'd like considered for

1272
00:56:19,130 --> 00:56:16,619
the personal report show our post that

1273
00:56:22,010 --> 00:56:19,140
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1274
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:22,020
email at launcher.com watch excuse me

1275
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:24,000
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1276
00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:25,920
sorry

1277
00:56:30,170 --> 00:56:26,880
um

1278
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:30,180
and uh I want to thank Carol Scott for

1279
00:56:33,290 --> 00:56:31,920
joining me this evening and thanks to

1280
00:56:34,910 --> 00:56:33,300
each and all you for watching and

1281
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:34,920
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1282
00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:38,400
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1283
00:56:42,530 --> 00:56:40,440
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1284
00:56:43,970 --> 00:56:42,540
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1285
00:56:47,390 --> 00:56:43,980
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1286
00:56:50,569 --> 00:56:47,400
so next Friday

1287
00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:50,579
we are going to conduct a flying crypted

1288
00:56:58,130 --> 00:56:54,420
round table and our guest will be Ken

1289
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:58,140
Gerhard Ron Murphy and Jason McLean so

1290
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:01,520
that'll be a quite interesting show

1291
00:57:06,950 --> 00:57:04,559
uh I hope you all consider taking some

1292
00:57:09,530 --> 00:57:06,960
time and come on live and

1293
00:57:11,569 --> 00:57:09,540
and present your questions to these guys

1294
00:57:14,750 --> 00:57:11,579
you know this is a this is a great line

1295
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:14,760
of course we can there and Ron and Jason

1296
00:57:18,970 --> 00:57:17,040
they they're all deeply involved with

1297
00:57:21,410 --> 00:57:18,980
the flying Cryptids and other

1298
00:57:25,309 --> 00:57:21,420
cryptozoologies uh other Cryptids as

1299
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:25,319
well so uh please uh it should be quite

1300
00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:28,079
an interesting round table so stay tuned

1301
00:57:32,990 --> 00:57:30,720
for burden that McDaniel is a paranormal

1302
00:57:36,109 --> 00:57:33,000
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1303
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1304
00:57:50,410 --> 00:57:39,300
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